Kim Kardashian has opened up about the complexities of co-parenting her four children with ex-husband Kanye West, calling it “not easy” but something she works hard to manage with grace and stability.
In a candid conversation on the Call Her Daddy podcast, the 44-year-old reality star and entrepreneur reflected on raising North, Saint, Chicago, and Psalm with the rapper, from whom she finalized her divorce in 2021.
When host Alex Cooper asked what co-parenting with West is like, Kardashian responded:
“It’s not easy. But, I mean, I raise the kids, you know, full-time. They live with me. I welcome a great, healthy relationship with my kids and their dad, and I think he knows that.”
She continued:
“I push for it all the time, but I also protect them when, you know, it’s time for that. And it goes in waves and phases and it’s a lot of work.”
When asked about the last time West saw his children, Kardashian revealed:
“Whenever he’ll call for them and ask. It’s probably been a couple months since we’ve heard from him.”
Kim Kardashian explained that their children understand their father’s busy lifestyle, saying they know he “had a big life” that involved extensive travel and multiple residences due to his demanding career.
“They love their life and their routine and their schedule,” she added. “And I think just their job as their mom is just to make sure that they stick to their routine and they’re healthy and happy. Look, it’s not easy no matter what, co-parenting with anyone.”
Addressing ongoing public speculation that she keeps the children away from their father, Kardashian pushed back firmly on that narrative:
“I’ve never once done that. There’s been so many times where I’ve been like, ‘Oh, I just wanna show all of these texts. What are you talking about?’ We just haven’t heard. I begged them, you know, to go hang out or things like that.”
Kim Kardashian expressed frustration with how online narratives distort her reality:
“It’s more of just the narrative that like, I think it’s all good and we’re living our life and then I just wake up and there’s all these tweets about how I’ve kidnapped the kids and I’m like, it’s not a kidnapping, it’s a divorce. We can still all be in each other’s lives and have group dinners.”
Kim Kardashian emphasized that she never denies West access to their children but sometimes sets boundaries when his behavior becomes unstable or “really super unhealthy.”
“I will, you know, say, ‘Hey, let’s do it here at my house,’ or, ‘Let’s figure out a different time.’ But actually, when he is like that, he doesn’t really want to see the kids a lot, so if he’s having a hard time, he doesn’t. So, it’s always worked out.”
She reiterated that she allows the children to visit him abroad “every time he asks,” mentioning trips to Saudi Arabia and Japan.
“I’ve never once denied it. No, I don’t keep the kids and I think that all,” Kardashian said.
While the Keeping Up with the Kardashians alum acknowledged the toll of public scrutiny, she said she refuses to engage in online battles:
“That narrative really sucks for me and if I spoke out about it and rebutted it, I’m just not that girl online that’s going to fight back and be like wait a minute, your assistant and you said you wanted a whole different birthday party and you said your party’s at four, so we did ours at noon, now you’re going online? It’s just a totally different narrative than what the reality is, and that just really sucks.”
Kim Kardashian concluded that despite the challenges, her priority remains ensuring her children’s happiness, health, and sense of stability — even in the spotlight of their parents’ high-profile lives.
